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Post by **rydi** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:51 am

This is exactly like the watchmen... if it were an 80's saturday morning cartoon.

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2009/03/if- ... more-10730

durden · Post by **durden** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:18 am

Movie was good.

Liquidprism · Post by **Liquidprism** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:05 pm

I was very impressed with the movie. It was really cool to watch.

Post by **rydi** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:06 pm

A good review:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-m ... w-watchmen

durden · Post by **durden** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:42 pm

Did anyone else miss the alien? Other than that, the changes I think were good. Nuance was lost, but that was expected.

Post by **rydi** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:58 am

I thought that the point was more cleanly made, and more generally aplicable, with the manhattan angle. Also, I feel that using manhattan complemented the other sub-themes, like human shittiness, the purpose of heroes/enemies, childishness of "good vs. evil", etc.

And where some nuance was lost, I think some was gained as well, with the subtle expressions of the actors lending greatly to one's perception of the characters.

arete · Post by **arete** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:08 pm

The only issue I have with the movie is the conversation on mars. The movie lacks in that one part, but otherwise I really like the movie.

durden · Post by **durden** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:24 pm

I think the book/film Mars discussion transferred well. That is, I don't think one was better. They did make the characters, for me, more likable. I don't want to like them. I didn't in the book.

My favorite part was the opening montage with Dylan's song. Made me nostalgic. Great to see the Golden Age.

Rorschach was perfect. The anti-hero that shames them all. One of the most lovable film characters we've seen in a while.

Liquidprism · Post by **Liquidprism** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:27 am

Yeah the soundtrack was really cool. It was poignant, and nostalgic for me. I didn't ever finish the graphic novel so I had nothing to base the movie plot on. I was just really impressed with the way it explored classic super hero themes, and made was both commentary on comic books, and a comic book in and of itself. I also enjoyed the VERY alien personality of Dr. Manhattan. Those sorts of characters have always resonated with me, and they are so rarely done well.

My only complaints are about the people that sat behind me... but I got to tell them to shut up, and have them comply, so that kind of makes even that little bit of unpleasantness bearable.

Paul Gilmore · Post by **Paul Gilmore** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:36 pm

I did not like the movie all around but i REALLY liked all points with Dr.Manhatten in them, it was amazing to see someone's psyche develop and change with the new found realization of godhood. How distant he became from humanity and everything else. The rest of the movie i was not that impressed with, much like the last batman, everytime joker was on the screen i was giddy but as soon as he left the screen back to boredom.

Nintendroid · Post by **Nintendroid** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:04 am

uhmmm, Book Spoiler Alert, highlight to read.

Some other of the "norms" I have spoken with were all but disturbed at Manhattan's nudity, but unless I missed the mark entirely, then I think its a great way to show his effort to stay connected to humanity, as his clothing level varies directly with said concept. That being said, I was mildy prepare to see some penis, but the "reveal" didn't have to be FOUR at once. I loved 90 some odd percent of dialogue that was exactly from the graphic novel, but was dissapointed in only two major plot points, one, the squid, of course, and two, not showing hollis mason die, I think it makes more sense out of the first paired crimefighting scene with silk spectre and nite owl ii, and I found it very nice that they named themselves after him in the end of the book, when they surprised miss jupiter as a nice clean cut couple.

durden · Post by **durden** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:06 pm

I concur

Post by **rydi** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:41 pm

Rorschach is a parody of a type - a type that remains resolutely resistant to parody. No matter how far the creators go in order to paint the vigilante in an unflattering, belittling, comical light, as long as the essential motivation of the urban vigilante remain untouched, the appeal can't be diminished. Rorschach is dirty, destitute, delusional, traumatized and dumb, and yet we still want to identify with him. We still want - we still desperately need the freedom to condone his actions, despite their reprehensible nature.

http://whenwillthehurtingstop.blogspot. ... 03/hi.html

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:44 am

Well, there's no sense beating around the bush. I disliked this movie intently. It seemed like it was intended specifically for people who either read the graphic novel, or at least knew something, anything, about the characters being represented. The sex was boring and ubiquitous. The only thing more lame than super hero sex is more super hero sex. I found a lot of the 'heroes' alarmingly ridiculous, and while they seemed to be attempting to humanize characters I already didn't know anything about, they kept the vintage costumes that belong in cosplay and nowhere else.

Whore sex being lady, whatever the fuck her name was, seemed to fight crime by dressing up like a whore and spinning about a lot.

Bird face man, no idea what his hero name or "power" was, seemed to dress up like douche and fly around whining. Not really sure how he fought crime. Oh, and his retail ski goggles which magically have night vision in them and his soliloquoy about looking through them was really, really bad.

Rorshack, was an asshole whose powers were: Right wing fundamentalism that would make Rush Limbaugh blush, A mask that had wavy pictures on it for NO REASON AT ALL, and he was strong. So.....it was dalton. Yeah, that's it. Dalton with a ski mask with no eye holes that has a magic pattern moving around on it.

Dr Manhattan: Ok, while I certainly enjoyed this character, I have to say something here. When I am running a role playing game, and someone submits their character to me with, I dunno, all system max stats and supreme cosmic power, I glance over it, pretend to think for a moment, and then politely ask them to leave. Dr Manhattan is just such a character. Writing stories about beings with supreme cosmic power is just...lame.

Intelligence man. Actually a cool hero. Suprisingly. However, I don't get it. He is the smartest man alive, and is so fast that he can whoopsie do la de da.

"The Comedian." Worst hero name ever. Which is good, because he's not a hero. AT all. That was like batman teaming up with punisher. It strikes a chord of atony that makes blood spray from my nose. He couldn't have died fast enough, and his dialogue couldn't have been too short.

These are the heroes that I would never give a crap about, and don't. I don't understand the big deal.

I enjoyed parts of it, even on my bootleg copy, especially the part where intelligence man says "I'm not some comic book villian" even though he totally was. And the humanity of Dr Manhattan was very well done. Other than that one line and that one part of that one character, I'd rather not have seen the film at all.

Liquidprism · Post by **Liquidprism** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:13 pm

I think something was lost upon you... alot

Watchmen